Schumann/Auer Bird as Prophet

[lacrimae_rerum]

Hi -- I'm looking for the violin/piano arrangement of "Bird as Prophet" (Vogel als Prophet), No. 7 from Schumann's Waldszenen (Forest Scenes) Op. 82.

I found internet mentions that this is a violin transcription by Auer with a piano part by Saenger, published by Carl Fischer in 1915, and with copies listed as available at some academic music libraries.

Any help would be appreciated...

Thanks!

[pml]

For a moment there I wasn't quite sure what the thread title would connote!

As you'd have already surmised, while we have some arrangements from Waldszenen, we don't yet have that particular one. It's probably best if you set the page as a watched page (you need to be logged in for this option to appear at the top of the page). You'll then receive notification by e-mail (if you set a valid address in your preferences) when the page is edited.

http://imslp.org/wiki/Waldszenen,_Op.82 ... _Robert%29

Regards, Philip

[Generoso]

For your information I found 3 youtube videos of this piece for Violin and Piano (actually only the audio):

Prophet Bird by Schumann opus 82 n°7 (arr. Auer) played by Zino Francescatti:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFHgLvAo3mc
and

Prophet Bird by Schumann (arr.Auer).recorded in 1959. Joseph Seiger,pf. played by Mischa Elman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlMNuEdeIsU

Rudolf Koelman(one of Heifetz's last pupils) plays "Der Vogel als Prophet" from Robert Schumann (arranged by Jascha Heifetz)kookaburra birds...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYN2RRxXUzA

[lacrimae_rerum]

@pmi: Will do, thank you.

@generoso: It's oddly not the lack of recordings that is the problem, but the lack of score. For a rather known recital piece, it's funny that I can't seem to find some kind of version, either in public domain or to purchase. Am I looking in the wrong places?

And just as an aside, is that third version really a credited Heifetz arrangement? On quick listen, it sounds an awful lot like the Auer versions.

Thanks everyone -- I will keep looking.

[Generoso]

I have not found them as of yet...but:
Robert Schumann;
Vogel als prophet = (bird as prophet) from Waldscenen = Forest scenes, op. 82, no.7
Transcribed for violin solo with piano accompaniment by Gustav Saenger.
1 piano (5 p.) + 1 part (3 p.); 36 cm.
Publisher: New York : Carl Fischer, 1915.
POP
Copies cataloged in 94 academic libraries.

[Generoso]

Update:
Heifetz version:
http://www.goodnewsmusic.com/violin/1450734.html
http://www.musicminusone.com/jascha-hei ... p-285.html

Elman version:
http://www.musicminusone.com/mischa-elm ... p-284.html

[kalliwoda]

Schumann-Auer is up, enjoy...

and no mention of Gustav Saenger on this 1913 Zimmermann edition.
(Carl Fischer may have used Saenger's name to secure a separate copyright)

Heifetz (1901-1987) on the other hand is still under copyright and you would have to buy it.

[lacrimae_rerum]

Wow, thank you so much, everyone! This community is a real treasure, and I'm very grateful. Cheers, all!