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Hello everyone.
Is it possible to have more scores of orchestral transcriptions uploaded?
And more scores for piano transcriptions 2-hands?

If it is possible, please upload orchestrations :
-Sir Henry Wood transcriptions (published) such as
http://www.chesternovello.com/default.a ... 3041=36418

-Bach /Joachim Raff : Chaconne BWV 1004 [Ries & Erler]
-Bach / Leonidas Leonardi: Prelude and Fugue In E Minor "Cathedral", BWV 533 [Elkan-Vogel Inc. ]
-Bach / Leonidas Leonardi: Overture from Cantata XXVI, Ach wie fluchtig, ach wie nichtig BWV 26 [Elkan-Vogel Inc. ]
-Bach / Leonidas Leonardi: Toccata & Fugue In D Minor, BWV 565 [Elkan-Vogel Inc.]
-Bach / Fabien Sevitzky : Wir glauben all' an einen Gott, BWV 680 [ C.C. Birchard & Co.]
-Bach / Vittorio Gui: Chorale Prelude, "O Mensch, bewein' dein' Sunde gross," BWV 622 [Universal Editions]
-Bach / Vittorio Gui: Chorale Prelude, "In dir ist Freude," BWV 615 [Universal Editions]
-Bach / Rene Leibowitz: Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, BWV 565 [Universal Editions]
-Bach / Herman Boessenroth : "Wir glauben All' an einen Gott", BWV 680 [Elkan-Vogel, Inc. ]
-Bach / Herman Boessenroth : Passacaglia and Fugue in C Minor, BWV 582 [Elkan-Vogel, Inc. ]
-Bach / Herman Boessenroth : Prelude in E Major from Violin Sonata No. 6 [Elkan-Vogel, Inc. ]
-Bach / Lucien Cailliet : Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, BWV 565 [Carl Fischer]
-Bach / Lucien Cailliet : Fugue in G Minor ("Little"), BWV 578 [Carl Fischer]
-Bach / Lucien Cailliet : Jagdkantate, Schafe konnen sicher weiden, BWV 208 [ Boosey & Hawkes]
-Bach / Lucien Cailliet : Herzlich tut mich verlangen [ Elkan-Vogel]
-Bach / Lucien Cailliet : Come, Sweet Death (Komm, susser Tod), BWV 478 [Elkan-Vogel, Inc. ]
-Bach / Lucien Cailliet : Prelude and Fugue in G minor, BWV 558 [Carl Fischer]
-Bach / Alexander Fyodorovich Goedicke : Fantasia & Fugue in G Minor, BWV 542 [Mussektor (Moscow)]
-Bach / Alexander Fyodorovich Goedicke : Passacaglia in C-minor, BWV 582 [Edition Russe - Russischer Musikverlag]
-Chopin / Karl Muller-Berghaus : Polonaise in A-flat, Op. 53 [Belaieff, M. P.]
-Chopin / Henry Sopkin : Polonaise in A-flat, Op. 53 [Belwin-Mills]
-Chopin / Lucien Garban : Valse Brillante, Op. 34 No1 [Durand]
-Chopin / Lucien Garban : Grande Valse Brillante, Op. 18 [Durand]
-Chopin / Hubert Mouton : Valse Op. 64 No 1 [Durand]
-Lecuona / Morton Gould : Andalucia [Marks, Edward B.]
-Chopin / Gustav Schmidt : Funeral March [Breitkopf & Haertel]
-Mozart / Hans Kindler : Le Nozze di Figaro, K. 492, Wedding procession [Belwin-Mills]
-Sgambati Giovanni / Fabien Sevitzky : Vecchio Minuetto [Boston Birchard]
-Handel / Fabien Sevitzky : Allegro, Sarabande & Gigue [ G. Ricordi]
-Rimsky-Korsakov / Fabien Sevitzky : Flight of the Bumble-Bee (for string orchestra) [Carl Fischer]
-Glinka Mikhail / Favien Sevitzky : Kamarinskaja, fantasia on two Russian folk-songs [Carl Fischer]
-Galliard Johann Ernst / Fabien Sevitzky : Sonata for chamber orchestra [G. Ricordi]



A million thanks in advance! :wink: :wink:
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Would it be it possible to have Mussourgsky-Tushmalov orchestral score?
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The score for the Tushmalov suite (it's really only selections - he didn't orchestrate the entire work) will be coming very soon. We already have the parts, of course. As for some of the items on you list above, Lucien Cailliet died only in 1985 and will not be free in Canada for a long time. Leonidas Leonardi died in 1967 and is also protected in Canada.
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Thanks!! :wink: Excellent job Carolus!
I am aware that Toushmaloff's orchestration had several omissions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f0H3J_CSL0

It's obvious that the request applies to the scores that are public domain.
It's a pity that we cant have the Bessel score of Leonidas Leonardi. :cry: :cry:
http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebreco ... WhKxcOD2Sb
What about Bach-Wood : Toccata and Fugue BWV 565 (Oxford University Press)?
Sir Henry Wood passed away in 1944, thus his published transcriptions should be free?...
What about Joachim Raff's orchestral transcriptions for J.S. Bach works?

Or these?
J.S Bach / Edward Elgar : Fantasy & Fugue in C Minor BWV 537
-Handel / Edward Elgar : Overture in D Minor
-Chopin / Edward Elgar : Funeral March rom the Piano Sonata No. 2 in B-flat minor Op. 35
-Parry / Edward Elgar : Jerusalem
-Balakirev / Alfredo Casella : Islamey Op. 18 [Rahter, D.]
-Scarlatti / Alfredo Casella : Toccata, Bourree et Gigue [Senart, Maurice]


And please would it be possible to have more piano transcriptions scores from publishers such as Bessel, Jurgenson, Belaieff, etc?
Because they have valuable-worthy rarities. :mrgreen:





Edit.
@Carolus many thanks for posting the Toushmaloff full score!! :wink:
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Will we see someday the following upload in imslp?

-Bach / Gustav Holst : Fugue a la gigue BWV 577 [Hawkes & Son, c1929]
-Bach / Jeno Hubay : Chaconne [Universal Edition, c1931]
-Bach / Heinrich Esser : Toccata in F major, BWV 540 (coda elaborated by Sir Edward Elgar)
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Lib/Esser-Heinrich.htm

-Bach / Bernhard Scholz : Prelude from Praeludium und Fuge, BWV 552 E in Flat Major [Rieter-Biedermann, c1874]


What about Bach-Respighi? Bach-Abert?
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Arran/OT-Respighi.htm
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Arran/OT-Abert-JJ.htm


Thanks in advance!
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A Clinton Nieweg Chart for orchestrations and arrangements of Pictures at an Exhibition
http://www.mola-inc.org/Mussorgsky.pdf


Are the following scores possible (in terms of copyright and availability) ?
Mussorgsky / Leon Funteck : Pictures at an Exhibition
Mussorgsky / Sergei Gortchakov : Pictures at an Exhibition
Mussorgsky / Sir Henry J. Wood : Pictures at an Exhibition
Mussorgsky / Walter Goehr : Pictures at an Exhibition

What about these guys here and their orchestrations?
Alfredo Casella
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Arran/OT-Casella.htm

Leo Weiner
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Arran/OT-Weiner.htm

Dezső d'Antalffy-Zsiross
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Arran/OT-Antalffy.htm

Maximilian Steinberg
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Arran/OT-Steinberg-M.htm

Clifford Demarest
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Arran/OT-Demarest.htm

Pianist Joanna MacGregor interviewing several people, including Leonard Slatkin, Vladimir Ashkenazy, Edward Johnson (doyen of Leopold Stokowski Society) and Lawrence Leonard about the several orchestrations for "Pictures at an Exhibition".

Part1
YouTube - Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition. An introduction to various orchestration part 1/2

Part2
YouTube - Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition. An introduction to various orchestration part 2/2

At a Promenade Concert on Monday, August 19th 1991 we heard Leonard Slatkin's brilliant first compilation from nine different orchestrations of Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, a remarkably successful initiative, reminding us, as it did, of how many arrangements there have been of this evocative score. Then he went for extracts from Lawrence Leonard’s version for piano and orchestra, from Vladimir Ashkenazy, Lucien Cailliet, Sergey Gorchakov, Leonidas Leonardi, Sir Henry Wood, Mikhail Tushmalov, Leopold Stokowski and Maurice Ravel.
It was the indefatigable Edward Johnson, champion of Leopold Stokowski, we had to thank for getting Slatkin interested and finding some of the scores. Now Slatkin has done it again with a new – in many ways more way-out – compilation including versions by Brywec Ellison, Sergei Gorchakov, Walter Goehr, Naoumoff, Geert van Keulen, Vladimir Ashkenazy, Carl Simpson (our Carolus :D 8) 8) :wink: ), Lucien Cailliet, Sir Henry Wood, Lawrence Leonard, Leo Funtek, John Boyd, Maurice Ravel and the Australian composer/arranger Douglas Gamley.

Slatkin’s first compilation, although he played it round the world, has never been commercially released, which makes it all the more pleasing to welcome his second version on this CD from the 2004 Proms at the Royal Albert Hall.
.......................
MUSSORGSKY Pictures RESPIGHI Pines WARNER 2564 61954-2 [LF]: Classical CD Reviews- August 2005 MusicWeb-International

Leonard Slatkin's 1st composite suite was :
1. Promenade (Lawrence Leonard)
2. Gnomus (Vladimir Ashkenazy)
3. Promenade II(Lucien Cailliet)
4. The Old Castle (Sergei Gorchakov)
5. Promenade III (Leonidas Leonardi)
6. Tuileries (Leonidas Leonardi)
7. Bydlo (Sir Henry Wood)
8. Promenade IV (Lucien Cailliet)
9. Ballet of the unhatched chicks (Lucien Cailliet)
10. 2 Polish-Jews, One Rich, the other Poor (Sergei Gorchakov)
11.Promenade V (Lucien Cailliet)
12.Limoges ; the Market (Mikhail Tushmalov)
13.Catacombs (Leopold Stokowski)
14.Cum Mortuis in Lingua Mortua (Sir Henry Wood)
15.Baba Yaga (Maurice Ravel)
16.Great Gate of Kiev (Maurice Ravel)
*encore* --> Great Gate of Kiev (Sir Henry Wood)



Introductory speech by Leonard Slatkin
YouTube - Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition. Various orchestrations. Leonard Slatkin conducting. (6/6)

Part1 ( Promenade I, Gnomus, Promenade II, Old Castle)
YouTube - Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition. Various orchestrations. Leonard Slatkin Conducting. (1/6)

Part 2 (Promenade III, Tuileries, Bydlo, Promenade IV, Polish Jews ) <-- Leonidas Leonardi in here!!!! Yay!!!!!
YouTube - Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition. Various orchestrations. Leonard Slatkin Conducting. (2/6)

Part 3 ( Promenade V, Limoges, Catacombs, Cum Mortuis )
YouTube - Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition. Various orchestrations. Leonard Slatkin Conducting. (3/6)

Part 4 (Baba-Yaga, The Grate Gate of Kiev )
YouTube - Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition. Various orchestrations. Leonard Slatkin Conducting. (4/6)

Great Gate of Kiev (Sir Henry Wood)
YouTube - Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition. Various orchestrations. Leonard Slatkin Conducting. (5/6)



Mikhail Tushmalov version with conductor Marc Andrae!
YouTube - Mussorgskij - Pictures at an Exhibition
Marc Andreae - Conductor
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At Sibley we have digitized many of these transcriptions, both solo piano and piano 4-hands (all the way up to piano 8-hands: we have a Ride of the Valkyries so arranged that I'd love to hear some time). I don't know how many have been subsequently uploaded to IMSLP, though. We've done a piano 4-hand transcription of Pictures that you can find here: http://hdl.handle.net/1802/9938. If you know specific composers/arrangers/publishers you can try searching those names, but if you just want to browse (https://urresearch.rochester.edu/viewIn ... ctionId=63) you can try call number searches. Searching for "M33" will give you a list of over 150 opera and ballet transcriptions for piano solo; M34=transcriptions presumably for concert purposes; M35=orchestral and band music; M37=concerto transcriptions; M38=chamber music (e.g. string quartets); M38.5 are songs. Works for piano 4 hands and up, including transcriptions, are generally classed M200-216. Hope this helps.
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jfarrington wrote:At Sibley we have digitized many of these transcriptions, both solo piano and piano 4-hands (all the way up to piano 8-hands: we have a Ride of the Valkyries so arranged that I'd love to hear some time). I don't know how many have been subsequently uploaded to IMSLP, though. We've done a piano 4-hand transcription of Pictures that you can find here: http://hdl.handle.net/1802/9938. If you know specific composers/arrangers/publishers you can try searching those names, but if you just want to browse (https://urresearch.rochester.edu/viewIn ... ctionId=63) you can try call number searches. Searching for "M33" will give you a list of over 150 opera and ballet transcriptions for piano solo; M34=transcriptions presumably for concert purposes; M35=orchestral and band music; M37=concerto transcriptions; M38=chamber music (e.g. string quartets); M38.5 are songs. Works for piano 4 hands and up, including transcriptions, are generally classed M200-216. Hope this helps.

Dear Jim,
Yes I know, you guys do a great job in digitizing scores at the sibley music library!! I have your page on my bookmarks to follow all the latest additions! Please keep up the good work! :wink: :wink:
But this thread is for Orchestral Transcriptions. I didn't see any orchestral transcriptions at sibley music library.


Peharps you could upload more Bach / August Stradal piano transcriptions
Stradal's piano solo transcriptions for organ works : BWV531-537 and BWV539-588
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/NVD/PT-Stradal.htm

In addition, Bach / Theodore Szanto piano transcriptions uploads would be nice....
I am looking for BWV531, 535, 555, 564 and 566.
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/NVD/PT-Szanto.htm
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Dear Jim,
Yes I know, you guys do a great job in digitizing scores at the sibley music library!! I have your page on my bookmarks to follow all the latest additions! Please keep up the good work! :wink: :wink:
But this thread is for Orchestral Transcriptions. I didn't see any orchestral transcriptions at sibley music library.
Ah, I read this the other way around (because we have so much demand for piano arrangements). In that case, try M1060 and M1070 for orchestral transcriptions, and M1160 and M1170 for string orchestra transcriptions.

Peharps you could upload more Bach / August Stradal piano transcriptions
Stradal's piano solo transcriptions for organ works : BWV531-537 and BWV539-588
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/NVD/PT-Stradal.htm

In addition, Bach / Theodore Szanto piano transcriptions uploads would be nice....
I am looking for BWV531, 535, 555, 564 and 566.
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/NVD/PT-Szanto.htm
We do not seem to own these. We have Stradal's transcription of a Vivaldi concerto that he erroneously ascribed to W.F. Bach, but that was published in 1947. Wish we could help.
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jfarrington wrote:
Ah, I read this the other way around (because we have so much demand for piano arrangements). In that case, try M1060 and M1070 for orchestral transcriptions, and M1160 and M1170 for string orchestra transcriptions.

We do not seem to own these. We have Stradal's transcription of a Vivaldi concerto that he erroneously ascribed to W.F. Bach, but that was published in 1947. Wish we could help.

Thanks for the tip!
Holy Toledo, you guys have Rachmaninoff / Sir Henry Wood : Prelude Op. 3 No 2 :o :o :o
https://urresearch.rochester.edu/instit ... emId=12624
Thank you!! :wink: I totally missed that.



Stradal's transcription of a Vivaldi concerto (that he erroneously ascribed to W.F. Bach) is already up
http://imslp.org/wiki/Organ_Concerto_in ... bastian%29


What about the following piano transcriptions?
Krebs / August Stradal : Orgel-Toccata a-Moll
Krebs / August Stradal : Orgel-Toccata und Doppelfuge d-Moll
Krebs / August Stradal : Große Fantasie und Fuge G-Dfur
Luigini / PERILHOU Albert : La voix de cloches
Tchaikovsky / KORN Clara Anna : Ouverture "1812" Op.49
Tchaikovsky / ESIPOFF Stepán : Ouverture "1812" Op.49 (piano solo transcription - unmolested scan)
Tchaikovsky / ESIPOFF Stepán : Ouverture "1812" Op.49 (2 Pianos transcription)
Coleridge-Taylor/ FLETCHER Leila : Hiawatha-Suite
Gustav Holst : Beni Mora Oriental Suite Op.29 (piano solo transcription by the composer)
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Thanks for the tip!
Holy Toledo, you guys have Rachmaninoff / Sir Henry Wood : Prelude Op. 3 No 2 :o :o :o
https://urresearch.rochester.edu/instit ... emId=12624
Thank you!! :wink: I totally missed that.

What about the following piano transcriptions?


You can see what scores (and recordings, videos, books, etc. :lol:) we own by searching our catalog here: http://sibley.lib.rochester.edu/.

There will also be links from there to the digital repository if we have already digitized them.
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jfarrington wrote:
You can see what scores (and recordings, videos, books, etc. :lol:) we own by searching our catalog here: http://sibley.lib.rochester.edu/.

There will also be links from there to the digital repository if we have already digitized them.

Excellent!
I will sparingly request some scores..
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Do you guys think the time is closing for some Leonidas Leonardi scores (1967 + 50 = 2017) ?

Or some Fabien Sevitzky?
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/Sevitzky-Fabien.htm
http://catalog.lib.rochester.edu/vwebv/ ... bId=950587
http://catalog.lib.rochester.edu/vwebv/ ... Id=1197645
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Frolov wrote:Do you guys think the time is closing for some Leonidas Leonardi scores (1967 + 50 = 2017) ?

Or some Fabien Sevitzky?
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/Sevitzky-Fabien.htm
http://catalog.lib.rochester.edu/vwebv/ ... bId=950587
For Leonardi, you have to wait until 2018 (or last half of 2017 to upload but his contributions are blocked until January 1st, 2018) because of a full calender of the year the composer died.
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