Full scores to all the orchestral parts we've been getting

[sbeckmesser]

Do the sources for all the parts we've been getting lately not have corresponding full scores that can be scanned? Many works here are now in the still-unperformable status of having only orchestral parts but no full score to go along with them. Elgar's Froissart is just one among many in this deplorable state. Pulling single parts out of a full score is laborious but still something that a dedicated performer can do. But nobody but a grant-recipient graduate musicologist is going to try to assemble a full score (especially for something like Froissart or an opera) from orchestral parts. And Froissart's a piece that can't be conducted from the concertmaster's chair, like it was possible to do in the good old days (ca. 1800).

--Sixtus

[daphnis]

But nobody but a grant-recipient graduate musicologist is going to try to assemble a full score (especially for something like Froissart or an opera) from orchestral parts

Why would anyone attempt such a foolish thing when a score, indeed a Kalmus reprint, can be had very easily. So to answer your question, sure they have full scores that can be scanned, just that no one has done so and submitted them thus far. I don't believe any of the Orchestral Musician sets, aside from, I'm told, the recent Wagner opera parts, came with digitized full scores included.

[sbeckmesser]

Graduate musicologists, on which path I was headed until I saw the light, routinely assemble full scores from parts. Many Baroque full scores -- unavailable from Kalmus since they, as new editions, are still under copyright -- were created by precisely this process. Go back further to the Renaissance and earlier and most printed "scores" will have been assembled by 20th century musicologists in this way, which of course makes many of them ineligible for posting at IMSLP.

I do wish the orchestral-parts submitters would check to see if a corresponding full score is needed for IMSLP as well. As I implied, an orchestral work cannot be performed or properly studied if the full score is not also available. As for Kalmus, I would prefer to spend my money on rightfully copyrighted works that are ineligible for IMSLP posting, such as the new editions(!) of Les Noces, Antheil's Ballet Mechanique and other even more recent scores (Adams, Reich, Crumb, Boulez, Carter etc.), none of which are available from Kalmus.

--Sixtus

[daphnis]

I do wish the orchestral-parts submitters would check to see if a corresponding full score is needed for IMSLP as well. As I implied, an orchestral work cannot be performed or properly studied if the full score is not also available.

Agreed. If such a list were compiled, I would be glad to donate some of my time and space in my overwhelming stack of work to adding these missing full scores. I've done this for a few works once parts were added, but would limit myself only to those for which specific requests were made for the corresponding full scores.

[Carolus]

Once the parts are all up (we're close to 2/3rds now), I'll be looking around for some scores to go with the sets that lack them. I already have one for the Bartok Suite No.1 on the scanning docket.

[vinteuil]

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