Arrangements in general, Boccherini in particular

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Arrangements in general, Boccherini in particular

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I note that in submitting parts for one of Boccherini's excellent quintets op25, 'cgo' purposely omitted a viola version of Boccherini's famously high-lying 'violoncello 1' part, which the original early-C19 publisher had supplied.

Dear cgo (or anyone else), I'd like that viola part - the music is fascinating and the original requires an unusually gifted 'cellist-as-tightrope-artist.

(Also anyone who has the missing few pages for those op25 quintets - please supply!)

In general, despite the scorn poured on arrangements by some members on these forae, I believe that arrangements frequently illuminate great music - take the 2-piano versions of Debussy's orchestral masterworks, for example - and often increase accessibility, as in this case. But I know I don't really have to convince IMSLP of this, since many other works are given here in interesting arrangements!
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I can't answer the request, but I feel that I should point out that it does not exactly help your cause to include such accusatory phrases as "purposely omitted" and "despite the scorn poured on arrangements by some members on these forae". Why are you convinced Cgo omitted it on purpose? Perhaps he simply didn't have it. And where have you seen scorn poured on arrangements on these forums? Can you provide some examples? IMSLP welcomes any out-of-copyright music; we certainly don't have any kind of prejudice against arrangements, or anything else for that matter. In the years I have been here, I do not recall ever seeing anything like that, and frankly I find it a bit rude to imply that any members of our community are, essentially, snobs, especially when you are new here and are asking us to do something.
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I am also not aware of any "scorn poured on arrangements" on these forae or wiki from any of our members. I agree that they often (if only) increase accessibility, but great music needs no transcription to provide recognition of its luminous qualities.
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Aaagh - I must clearly be more careful, as I find IMSLP a brilliant resource and have absolutely no wish to denigrate the work you do, nor to disrespect the community.

First, the 'scorn for arrangements' - I should clearly have checked this much more carefully but I have a strong memory of a forum discussion in which several contributors had very sniffy things to say about arrangement - if it wasn't, in fact, on IMSLP I apologise unreservedly. In my mind it was about 18 months ago, when I first looked at the Forums. I know that not all topics are maintained indefinitely, but I should take the time to look it up so as not to make unsubstantiated claims.

Second, cgo's 'miscellaneous note' on the Boccherini reads as follows:

"This edition contains also a part for "Alto-Violoncello" (= Viola for first cello), which is omitted here"

I read this to mean that cgo had an edition with this part, but purposely chose to omit it. But you're right of course, it could mean that cgo knew of such a part but didn't in fact have it. Apologies again for any offence caused.
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