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Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:16 pm
by TheFirstCelloCYS
Are there ANY Shostakovich/prokofiev Public Domain works? just for the cello though,nothing else. any help is GREATLY aprreciated
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:38 pm
by daphnis
The answer for Shostakovich is simple. No. With Prokofiev I'm not sure.
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:46 pm
by BKhon
daphnis wrote:The answer for Shostakovich is simple. No.
Not true.
daphnis wrote:With Prokofiev I'm not sure.
Prokofiev actually wrote two cello pieces (that I know of), and they are both quite interesting.
1). Op.58 - Cello Concerto in E minor
2). Op.119 - Cello Sonata
Unfortunately, we do not currently have Op.58 on the IMSLP.
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:47 pm
by daphnis
just for the cello though,nothing else
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:56 pm
by BKhon
Solo cell then... well, there are still public domain Shostakovitch cello works. In terms of Prokofiev... nope, Prokofiev (as far as I know) didn't write any solo cello pieces.
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:01 am
by daphnis
I'm not aware of any Shostakovich works involving cello that are public domain. Obviously the only place they would be public domain is the US, and even then they would have to have been very early works. Can you enlighten us?
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:12 am
by BKhon
Every work Shostakovich has written for solo cello is in the public domain. This includes the 2 cello concertos
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:17 am
by daphnis
1.) Shostakovich wrote no works for solo cello that are in existence.
2.) Any Shostakovich published after 1922 was restored to copyright status by the TRIPS amendment to the GATT which took effect on 1 January, 1996.
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:18 am
by pml
Nonsense.
Will the real Ben Khon stand up?
PML
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:21 am
by Carolus
Shostakovich died in 1975 (considerably less than 50 years ago) and only about 2-3 items were published before 1923 (all items published later were restored to copyright in the USA as of 1/1/1996). Apart 2-3 items in the USA and in some places like Afghanistan, Aruba and the Marshall Islands (which have no copyright laws), Shostakovich is protected worldwide. BKhon's brother must be posting here!
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:24 am
by daphnis
Yeah, I thought something was up. This is indeed nonsense.
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:03 am
by TheFirstCelloCYS
forgive me,i should have been more clear, Cello with any form of accompanyment is fine,but thanks for your help
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:46 am
by BKhon
[quote="Carolus"]Splaces like Afghanistan, Aruba and the Marshall Islands (/quote]
No, this is the real BKhon
I was sort of joking around the concept of ambiguity. While everyone assumed we were talking about the IMSLP tagging system (Canada, USA, EU), I was referring to the places Carolus mentioned. Just a little friendly (and pointless) little dive to exploit the dangerous nature of ambiguity. Well, that's my attempt at terrible/out of place/provocative humor...
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:25 am
by daphnis
@ TheFirstCelloCYS
Just as further clarification, we've already established there are no public domain Shostakovich works involving cello, but there is one Prokofiev piece that IS public domain, and that is the
Ballade, Op. 15 which you can find here:
http://imslp.org/wiki/Ballade,_Op.15_(P ... v,_Sergei)
Re: Shostakovich/Prokofiev Cello works?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:51 am
by Melodia
For reference, Prokofiev actually wrote THREE pieces for cello and orchestra:
Cello Concerto in e, Op. 58
Sinfonia Concertante in e, Op. 125 (which is a reworking of the above)
Cello Concertino in g, Op. 132 (which was unfinished, completed by Rostropovich and orchestrated by Kabalevsky)
The last one is obviously not PD. Dunno about Op. 125.