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So I've stumbled this hidden gem among Gliere's works a few days ago, and I wondered where one could get the sheet of this unsuspected masterpiece. It was published in 1921 (no precision in which country it was published in the first place), so according to the IMSLP rules, it should be in public domain in Canada, and might enter the American and European PD in five years. Anyone might be interested in seeing the sheet in the near future? Thanks in advance for your responses.

P.S: if it's permitted, I'll add a YouTube link to the only recorded version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJY489x ... rt%26music

I also second that. The work "The Zaporozhe Cossacks" Symphonic ballet-piece in F major Op. 64 (1921) should be available at imslp.org.
It's a hidden treasure and a lovely symphonic poem by Gliere.


What is it more, does it sound like a ridiculous idea to see more Reinhold Gliere scores uploaded on imslp.org?
Orchestral oeuvres such as:

-Symphonic Fragment (1934)
-Suites No.1 and No. 2 from the ballet Khrizis for symphonic orchestra Op. 65a and Op. 65b (1925)
-Trizna, Symphonic Poem in F Sharp Minor Op. 66 (1911-1915)
-Suite for Symphonic Orchestra from the opera Shakh-Senem Op. 69a (1933)
-Suite No 1 from the ballet "The Red Poppy" Op. 70a (1950)
-Suite No 2 from the ballet "The Red Poppy" Op. 70b (1950)
-Solemn overture for large symphonic orchestra in G major Op. 72 (1937)
-Zapovit (The Bequest) Symphonic poem in E minor Op. 73 (1941)
-Feast in Fergana Overture for large symphonic orchestra in D major Op. 75 (1940)
-Overture on Slavonic Themes for symphonic orchestra in F major Op. 77 (1941)
-The Friendship of the Peoples, Overture for symphonic orchestra in A major Op. 79 (1941)
-Victory Overture for symphonic orchestra in B Flat Minor Op. 86(1944)
-Festive Overture for symphonic orchestra in D major Op. 97 (1955)
-Suite from the ballet Taras Bulba for symphonic orchestra Op. 92a (1951-1952)
-Suites No1 and No2 from the ballet "The Comedians" Op. 68a and Op. 68b (1930)
-For the Happiness of the Fatherland, Overture for symphony orchestra (1942)
-The Imitation of Ezekiel, Symphonic Poem (Melodram) for narrator and orchestra (1919)

-Rachel, opera in one act Op. 81 (1942-43)
-Symphonic Fantasy for Folk-Instruments orchestra in F major Op. 80 (1943)
-Music to the play Farhad and Shirin Op. 85 (1946)
-Leili and Medshnun, opera in 4 acts Op. 94 (1940)
-Gyulsara, opera in 4 acts Op. 96 (1949)
-The Cossacks whistled it, Ukrainian folk song. For mixed Choir with big symphony orchestra (1935)
-Esmeralda, for symphony orchestra (1926) [New instrumentation of the ballet of C. Pugni (1844)]

are these composition or publication dates? Works not published until after 1972 are not in the public domain in Canada or in the US (and there, it's first publication in the US), and nothing by Glière is PD in Europe until 2027 at earliest, so works first published in 1973 or later in that list will at best be out of copyright - if anywhere - in a few countries at most, which is why not the composition dates but the first publication dates are of interest.

(Op.97, e.g., was published two years after its composition- one year after Glière's death - in 1957. Op.64 while composed in 1921 seems to have waited until 1929 for publication - see Worldcat, also BNF - so won't be PD in the United States until 2025, and is only in the public domain in Canada and a couple of other places just now. E.g. ...

Some of these works may not have been published until the Glière collected works edition, if then. Edit: of Trizna after Pushkin's "Oleg" I can find only mentions, no trace of the score?... and not even that about Rachel or Farhad, so far, but will look harder later.

Those dates, in all likelihood, correspond to the year that each work was composed (or compiled for that matter).
But probably many of the said works were first published before 1972, so they qualify at least as PD in Canada.
http://www.reinhold-gliere.net/index8.htm

The Trizna Symphonic Poem perhaps was left incomplete, or unpublished (in the state of manuscript)?... It's a mystery.



Here's information on the year of publication:

Zapovit (The Bequest) Op. 73
https://worldcat.org/title/1115123859

The Bonze Horseman Orchestral Suite
https://worldcat.org/title/18548503

Overture to Shakh-Senem
https://worldcat.org/title/63601412

Victory Symphonic Overture Op. 86
https://worldcat.org/title/14137558

The Friendship of Peoples Op. 79
https://worldcat.org/title/47987221

Feast in Fergana Op. 75
https://worldcat.org/title/35518757

Festive Overture Op. 97
https://worldcat.org/title/863487711

Solemn Overture Op. 72
https://worldcat.org/title/863451084
https://worldcat.org/title/1115127700

Overture to Slavonic Themes Op. 77
https://worldcat.org/title/1115120636

Overture to Gyulsara
https://worldcat.org/title/1061642401

Concert Waltz Op. 90
https://worldcat.org/title/1061696301

Red Poppy Ballet Suite
https://worldcat.org/title/1061687222

Symphonic Fragment
https://worldcat.org/title/25957297
https://worldcat.org/title/500721541

Thanks. Worth noting that Worldcat, while quite useful, is understandably based on librarians' approximations and is nowhere near as good a source as, say, a really really good scholarly source about the composer with a worklist listing composition dates and first publication date and publisher (and premiere date and etc.) would be. Not every composer has had such a book written about them (though a fair number of composers have really good books written about them- even Robert Fuchs and Hans Huber have books something like that written about them, and Glière is rather better known than they are...) (And reinhold-gliere.net is worth my checking out, thank you for that.)

(Ginther's 2017 thesis "Music in transition : the life and works of Reinhold Glière and their political and cultural context : a thesis submitted in partial fulfilment of the requirements for the degree of Doctor of Philosophy in European Studies at the University of Canterbury, National Centre for Research on Europe" might be an example. PhD theses, by the way, sometimes (a) are very helpful in just this connection (b) are available for free download - I was curious about the "other three symphonies" of Ödön Mihalovich (whose first symphony is @ IMSLP) - it turns out there's a Hungarian-language dissertation by Akon Windhager about all 4 of his symphonies (with incipits), his operas, and other works that answered all my questions (and I don't speak Hungarian at this time.) (This isn't directly related to Glière, it's an example )
Apparently the Ginther dissertation is also downloadable, from New Zealand, I think (I haven't checked the PDF link)- maybe it contains answers to some of our questions?

Eric wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:27 pm are these composition or publication dates? Works not published until after 1972 are not in the public domain in Canada or in the US (and there, it's first publication in the US), and nothing by Glière is PD in Europe until 2027 at earliest, so works first published in 1973 or later in that list will at best be out of copyright - if anywhere - in a few countries at most, which is why not the composition dates but the first publication dates are of interest.

(Op.97, e.g., was published two years after its composition- one year after Glière's death - in 1957. Op.64 while composed in 1921 seems to have waited until 1929 for publication - see Worldcat, also BNF - so won't be PD in the United States until 2025, and is only in the public domain in Canada and a couple of other places just now. E.g. ...

Some of these works may not have been published until the Glière collected works edition, if then. Edit: of Trizna after Pushkin's "Oleg" I can find only mentions, no trace of the score?... and not even that about Rachel or Farhad, so far, but will look harder later.

Canada does not go by first publication like the US, but first publication, performance or transmission. If the work was ever publicly performed or broadcast, this is equivalent to publication for Canadian purposes.

Of course, not all works are publicly performed during the composer's lifetime. But many works are performed publicly long before being published.

Actually, I was going by death date, by which he’s (c) in EU but generally not in CA, true.