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TELEMANN CONCERTO for RECORDER and FLUTE TWV52e1

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:37 pm
by maurice alan quinn
Re ERROR in RECORDER PART - Movement #1, Bar 15
The first sixteenth-note (semiquaver) in the third beat of bar#15 in the opening movement in the recorder part IS AN E NATURAL - NOT A C NATURAL. Assuming that the source is Barenreiter Hortus Musicus where the error originates, the printed note in the score itself will confirm that it is indeed an E. Most recorder-players who have recorded this work have themselves failed to note this error. The implied harmony of the three accompanying string parts is 5/3 and not 6/4. I've known this work since 1960 or so when I obtained a DGG ARCHIV-PRODUKTION of this work; info provided me with the HM edition number from which I ordered my part. In this recording Burghard Schaeffer played the correct note. In effect this was an engraving error where two - instead of three - leger-lines was printed...

Re: TELEMANN CONCERTO for RECORDER and FLUTE TWV52e1

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:23 pm
by haydenmuhl
Your best bet at getting this corrected is contacting the typesetter via the wiki. He is still actively contributing to the wiki, but may not read the forums.

Re: TELEMANN CONCERTO for RECORDER and FLUTE TWV52e1

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:38 pm
by Boccaccio
I'm not sure it is an error: The Manuscript from Darmstadt also has c instead of e.

Re: TELEMANN CONCERTO for RECORDER and FLUTE TWV52e1

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:46 pm
by Rob Peters
Just checked the score - and it definitely is an error. The c doesn't fit in the e minor harmony of the strings and the correct e is confirmed by the imitation in the traverso part, the following beat.
It's so obvious that any serious player will correct it himself, like the player in your recording did.

Re: TELEMANN CONCERTO for RECORDER and FLUTE TWV52e1

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:15 pm
by maurice alan quinn
Thanks, Boccaccio and Rob Peters - for replies; they are extremely helpful; the traversa-imitation had not escaped my mind either. I have only just "discovered" how to access Landesbibliothek Darmstadt which has this work in parts-only. The recorder-part unbeknown to me is in the French Violin Clef and - sure enough - it is probably-incorrectly noted as a C, so I can now dismiss any inference that the work might have been "filched" from Barenreiter Hortus Musicus which - nevertheless - printed an E in the score itself. This is an example of otherwise-reliable source-material being critically questioned, and Rob Peters has ultimately put the issue beyond doubt. (Palmerston North New Zealand 06 Oct @ 22:14Zulu)

Re: TELEMANN CONCERTO for RECORDER and FLUTE TWV52e1

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:25 pm
by maurice alan quinn
I also bring to your attention confusion at Movt#4 bar 75 (traversa) and its answer (flauto) at bar 91; this is more difficult to resolve - the rhythm in the first beat of the affected bars are at odds in the Darmstadt parts, and it may well be that the flauto part is correct after all. In my 1952 recording (Thea v. Sparr - flauto/Burghard Schaeffer - traversa) both soloists are in-agreement with bar 92 and play both passages accordingly. Even Barenreiter HM#124 on which my LP is based - in confused on this issue.