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John Bishop

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:32 pm
by pierre.chepelov
John Bishop (1665-1737) 's page says he edited The Art of Preluding, Op.300 by Carl Czerny... which work page says it was edited by John Bishop (1817–1890).
Any way to solve this?

Re: John Bishop

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:13 am
by pml
Yes; we use a different category page for the editor, and don't use the "LinkEd" template for this guy on the work page for Czerny's Op.300. Instead, assuming the existence of a different category such as:

Category:Bishop, John (1817-1890)

Then replace {{LinkEd|John|Bishop}} on the Czerny work page with the following text:

[[:Category:Bishop, John (1817-1890)|John Bishop]][[Category:Bishop, John (1817-1890)/Editor]]

From comparing the one bit of bolded text with the other, you can probably gather why we use those templates — to save a whole lot of unnecessary typing!

Regards, Philip

Re: John Bishop

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:01 pm
by pierre.chepelov
So there should be
"John Bishop" (for the oldest)
and
"John (1817-1890) Bishop" (for the editor).

Or, should it be dealt like for the 2 Heinrich Albert:
"Heinrich (d. 1651) Albert"
"Heinrich (d. 1950) Albert"
?

Re: John Bishop

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:23 pm
by pierre.chepelov
This question has been discussed here a few days ago!
BTW, there are already on IMSPL 2 others works edited by John Bishop (19th c.), but without links!

Re: John Bishop

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:09 pm
by pierre.chepelov
I created a person page for Bishop, John (d. 1890)
and tryed to use this:

Code: Select all

|Editor={{LinkEd|John (d. 1890)|Bishop|"John Bishop"}}
but didn't get the exact result I hoped... So, the {{Link... templates do not have a field for a "display-only" form of the name?

Re: John Bishop

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:11 am
by pml
See my post above. The LinkEd templates don’t have an option for customised display (which is not usually wanted for >99% of names). This John Bishop is in the <1% of names that cause a problem.

As per my initial post upthread, use: [[:Category:Bishop, John (d.1890)|John Bishop]][[Category:Bishop, John (d.1890)/Editor]] (the first handles the link, the second does the categorisation).

Cheers, PML

Re: John Bishop

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:19 am
by pierre.chepelov
Thanks, I think it's well done now.
Sorry it took me some time to understand how it works! :roll: