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Josef Lauber (1864-1952) posthumously pub. works for Double Bass

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 11:52 am
by bicinium
Hi, Joseph Lauber is PD-EU as of this year and I have scores of his solo works for double bass. They were published posthumously by the Swiss publisher Pizzicato Verlag Helvetia with no editor listed. They are:

Fantaisie de Concert (double bass and piano), 1998
Burlesque (double bass and piano), 2000
Quatre Caprices (double bass and piano), 2000
Sonate (double bass and piano), 2003
Quatre Morceaux d'Eglise (double bass and organ or harmonium), 2003
Concerto pour Contrebasse et Petit Orchestre (full score). 2005, PVH 984

I'm assuming that the 25 year urtext rule applies, meaning I will be able to upload the Fantaisie de Concert next year?

Re: Josef Lauber (1864-1952) posthumously pub. works for Double Bass

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 4:03 pm
by Sallen112
None of those editions would be eligible yet on our current server structure, so yes by next year, you can upload the Fantaisie de Concert online then as long as there is a first publication, performance or broadcasted before 1972 of the piece in question.

Re: Josef Lauber (1864-1952) posthumously pub. works for Double Bass

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 6:45 pm
by bicinium
Actually I just noticed that a whole bunch of his manuscripts are now digitized and freely available... (edit: does not include the Fantaisie de Concert, Burlesque, Quatre Caprices or the Sonate)
https://patrinum.ch/search?f1=author&as ... ject&ln=en

Would these be OK then or do we run afoul of editio princeps rules? Regarding performances, they were composed to be played by a double bassist named Hans Fryba so it is plausible - or very hard to disprove - that they were played at least once.

Re: Josef Lauber (1864-1952) posthumously pub. works for Double Bass

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 8:38 pm
by Sallen112
If you want to make a modern edition available, you would be best to make your own editions of them and not post the published editions online here.

Re: Josef Lauber (1864-1952) posthumously pub. works for Double Bass

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 8:06 am
by DBMiller
Actually, no. The 25-year rule doesn't apply to any of these. You can upload them.