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It's probably too late to help the original poster, but for anyone else looking, if you want the clar and pf version, for the pianist's sake do try very hard to find the old edition published by a Danish publisher (name escapes me) as the piano part in the new Bärenreiter (I think!) score is very ba...

One C&D "request" and a further letter from a lawyer does not, by any stretch of the imagination, constitute "repeated polite and direct attempts to discuss in an amiable manner the copyright infringements" allegedly taking place on the site. I think the UE implication is th...

You have come here with an air of knowledge of in depth copyright law, yet fail to back up your arguments, and get a lot of facts about IMSLP wrong. Whatever you say. But I _have_ got some experience of working in businesses, over the years, and I just think you guys are being unnecessarily paranoi...

The first thing we got from UE - that I know of - was a demand to sign an agreement to pay 210,000 Euros for works that are public domain in Canada. You mean the First Cease and Desist letter as reproduced on this very forum? It's actually quite a nicely-worded letter saying, quite simply, please d...

Regarding the sale of Dover's scores to countries outside the US, although Dover clearly states that some scores are restricted only to the US (eg. Stravinsky's ballet scores), that doesn't stop people in the EU or Asia from purchasing them online via Amazon.com or SheetMusicPlus.com. True, but it'...

There is of course also the following problem: I am in a territory in which the music is still under copyright protection, but the interpretation of the fair use clause in our country means that I am allowed to download it for private and study purposes If anything is clear, it's that no single sol...

OK, I have a concrete suggestion for a way out of this impasse. IMSLP had copyright warnings on the pages of works in copyright in some territories, but they were relatively small and also unspecific. Supposing this warning was very much stronger? I'm thinking of a page which pops up when you click ...

So, if I have real physical Bartok scores in the UK (which I do), but I also have them in digital form, I'm in breach of copyright? I don't know if that specific case has been tested or even discussed by the relevant authorities, but the British Phonographic Institute has said, explicitly and in pr...

Dover Edition had already published Schoenberg and Bartok, and others, under the old USA law (life +30 years if I remember correctly). When the new law came in, as I understand it, they negotiated with the original publishers so as not to have to withdraw their already-printed scores. No idea what s...

it's the fact that people from countries where the music is still in copyright could potentially download the scores which is the problem It's not even that, it's that people from those countries could _easily_ - too easily - download them. If any potential illegal downloading, however tortuous (e....

Vast majority? Have you quantified this? How? Well, how many countries have longer terms than that? Very few, and the only one I could see in the list that has any noticeable classical-music activity is Mexico. Unless you simply misunderstood me - I meant 70 years covers also, by default, those wit...

If some data enters a country on leased lines of an international company, then that company is responsible for importing the data into the country in question. There were some legal findings in relation to Napster and other recording-sharing services that found the opposite - the ISP is held blame...

Further, if an EU citizen border hops to a non-EU country to download under a different regime, is EU Customs going to pick them up when they go home?

Of course not, but that's just the old argument that a crime isn't a crime until you're caught.

Well, since life+70 years covers the vast majority of the classical-music-downloading world, why not as a temporary measure remove (or remove links to, which will have the desired effect) all composers who died since 1936? That will admittedly leave a few works that are copyright in the USA under th...

IMSLP believes that access to public domain items must not be denied. I think that's about the one thing that all contributors to this debate agree on. "We further demand that you institute a filtering system to the IMSLP that would prevent any further uploading etc.etc." A small point, b...