Karlheinz Stockhausen 1928-2007

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Karlheinz Stockhausen 1928-2007

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German composer Karlheinz Stockhausen has died at the age of 79.

Here is the article where I read it (ABC News, Australia);

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007 ... 113291.htm
“all great composers wrote music that could be described as ‘heavenly’; but others have to take you there. In Schubert’s music you hear the very first notes, and you know that you’re there already.” - Steven Isserlis
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Yes, very sad news indeed. The BBC also has this article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7133571.stm
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To be honest I've never understood or been able to personally label electronic "music" as music...

EDIT: oh yeh, he was the one who said 9/11 was the greatest work of art of the 20th Century.
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ArcticWind7 wrote:
EDIT: oh yeh, he was the one who said 9/11 was the greatest work of art of the 20th Century.
from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 04_pf.html

"He uses his high degree of intelligence to destroy creation," the composer said. "He does not know love. After further questions about the events in America, I said that such a plan appeared to be Lucifer's greatest work of art."
Io la Musica son, ch'ai dolci accenti
So far tranquillo ogni turbato core,
Et or di nobil ira et or d'amore
Poss'infiammar le più gelate menti.
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Post by Yagan Kiely »

Whoever said art had to be pretty?

However, neither 9/11 or Stockhausen's art is music in my eye (ears?). I do believe they are art, but not music.
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From http://www.stockhausen.org/stockhasuen_passes.html:
"The works which were composed until 1969 are published by Universal Edition in Vienna, [...]"

During next days many people will search the Net for KS works
... any idea to preparing a fine christmas gift for UE ?

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Re: Karlheinz Stockhausen 1928-2007

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To me music is organized sound that requires intellect, architecture, emotion, and technique. I think Stockhausen's music qualifies as MUSIC. I find it hard to beleive that there are still serious musicians around (who are educated and trained) who still don't understand that concept? Technology and music have always been parallel, so why is electonic music so intimidating? Would you prefer a doctor or a scientist who didn't use "electronic" technology? Why should you expect musicians of the 20th and 21st centuries to not use electronics?
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Re: Karlheinz Stockhausen 1928-2007

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I agree about electronic music being real music. I studied electronic music in college with a student of Stockhausen (the late and much-loved Ivan Tcherepnin) and like to believe that I received a little of the Stockhausen experience, at least 2nd-hand. And what we did in class was as hard-core music (history, theory, analysis, composition etc.) as any of the other musical training I got. We certainly received more acoustic and definitely more electronics training than most "real" musicians receive.

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