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Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:46 pm
by zachtay
Hi there, I conduct a small orchestra in Melbourne, Australia. We are looking to perform this horn concerto by Haydn but have difficulty finding a good score and set of parts for the orchestra.

Joseph Haydn - Horn Concerto No. 1 in D major, Hob. VIId:3 (Full Score and Parts)

Will be great if we could get hold of the score and parts before our March 31 concert, will greatly appreciate any help you could provide!

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:27 am
by horndude77
zachtay wrote:Will be great if we could get hold of the score and parts before our March 31 concert, will greatly appreciate any help you could provide!
I'd love to help create the parts if you could get a hold of a public domain score. I have an Eulenburg score (E.E. 6168, 1960?) edited by Christa Landon, but I don't believe it's public domain. Can anyone confirm this?

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:12 pm
by KGill
Published by Eulenburg in 1959, as far as I can make out (along with multiple later editions, including Billaudot and Henle). The earliest publication I can find is the 1952 Boosey & Hawkes edition, an arrangement for horn and piano by Heinz Herbert Steves. While this was registered
with the US Copyright Office, making it under copyright worldwide (well, probably), the Eulenburg was not and is therefore uploadable to at least the US server here. As Christa Landon was a musicologist, I presume that this edition is urtext; can anyone confirm that? If so, it would be uploadable and accessible to all, and of course it would be perfectly legal for horndude to make the parts from it.

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:49 am
by jossuk
Kalmus has its own edition, edited by McAlister.

http://www.efkalmus.com/kalorchdetail.php?r=2678

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:32 am
by zachtay
Thanks so much for writing back guys, horndude I'm very appreciative that you might be able to help! Sincere thanks. What are your thoughts, would you be interested to produce the parts for this?

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:23 pm
by horndude77
http://imslp.org/wiki/Horn_Concerto_No. ... n,_Joseph)

I've uploaded the score. The copyright team still needs to review it. Take a look when that's done.

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:48 am
by zachtay
Thanks for writing back with the PM horndude, I can't reply via PM because I'm a new member unfortunately, am definitely happy to help proof the parts before release, could you please send them to [email address removed]?

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:41 am
by steltz
Sorry, Zachtay, I removed your email address -- we don't allow private filesharing, even though the purpose of it might be sound and legal. I'm sure you can proofread from uploaded files.

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:37 pm
by horndude77
steltz wrote:Sorry, Zachtay, I removed your email address -- we don't allow private filesharing, even though the purpose of it might be sound and legal. I'm sure you can proofread from uploaded files.
I apologize. I'll upload the first draft this evening after work.

A few things that would be nice to add:
- rehearsal marks
- cues
- good page turns

Let me know any suggestions on these. Page turning is hard in the never-not-playing violin parts, but I can at least attempt to get rid of widow systems before or after page breaks. There are some phrases where the first violins are doubling the solo part so those might be valid places for page turns. The oboe parts are only two pages long so there's no problem there. The viola and bass parts have some small breaks which could make adding page turns easier.

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:38 pm
by steltz
horndude77 wrote:There are some phrases where the first violins are doubling the solo part so those might be valid places for page turns.
Other good places to look for are places where the whole orchestra is playing anyway, so it isn't so crucial if the inner desk people lean over to turn a page -- the 2nd violins/viola/celli/basses cover the temporary dip in sound.

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:24 am
by horndude77
I've uploaded the first draft. I did a very quick listen and added some rehearsal marks though surely they're not optimal. I also noticed that I neglected to name the instruments at the start of the score so I'll need to to correct that. I'll have some time this weekend to work on it.

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:26 pm
by horndude77
I uploaded a new version:
* The page turns in the parts should be better, but the music may be a bit compressed.
* The page size is now 9x12 inches. I assume you'll be printing on A4 paper, but hopefully the music won't be too small when scaling down.
* Margins are wider.
* "Solo" and "Tutti" sections are added to mark when the horn is playing and when the orchestra is playing.
* Re-did the rehearsal marks. They don't restart at 'A' for each movement. Hopefully they make sense.

Enjoy!

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:08 pm
by horndude77
Zachtay, did this happen on your concert? I'm curious to know. Thanks!

Re: Haydn Horn Concerto No.1 in D Hob. VIId:3 (Score/Parts)

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:35 am
by zachtay
Hi there Horndude77, apologies that this note of thanks is so late -- I only read just this! I should activate email alerts for replies to threads.

Yes we did perform with your parts, I believe we used the earlier version, and the rehearsals and concert went smoothly without a glitch. It was excellent and we couldn't have done it without your help! Thank you very much! Apologies again that this note is two years late. I didn't think to search for this thread again until our last correspondence re: "Hornsignal". Hope you're well.