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Question about instrument names (Beethoven's 5th)
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:21 am
by Rachmaninoff
On
Beethoven's 5th Symphony, 1st movement, the first 7 instruments are written as:
- Flauti
Oboi
Clarinetti in B
Fagotti
Corni in Es
Trombe in C
Timpani in C.G
I interpret them as being:
- Flute
Oboe
Clarinet in Bb
Basson
Horn in Eb
Trumpet in C
Timpani in C.G
Am I correct?
Also, are these names in Italian? And the timpani does need to have the appended "C.G", since it uses a bass clef?
Thanks.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:26 am
by scottorr
I believe the timpani needs the appendix "C.G." because that is the required tuning it needs for the piece. One drum is tuned to C and the other to G. But perhaps I'm wrong.
If there are any orchestra or percussion avidists out there let us know.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:41 am
by daphnis
Your translation is correct, they are Italian names.
The timpani requires the appendix in order to indicate both how many drums are required, and to which pitches they are tuned.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:52 pm
by carmar1791
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:33 am
by Rachmaninoff
Thanks guys!
carmar1791 wrote:Yes your translation is correct,but obviously I think you know that those italian names are plural...clarinetti is clarinets etc...
Yes, thanks for confirming this!
Re: Question about instrument names (Beethoven's 5th)
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:20 pm
by sbeckmesser
The present urtext-du-jour of the Beethoven 5 (edited by Jonathan del Mar, Barenreiter) has "clarini in do" instead of "trumpet" or "tromba." This is important in that it refers to valveless "natural" trumpets. These sound quite different from modern valved trumpets playing the same pitches, especially if the modern trumpets are not themselves in C.
--Sixtus
