Page 1 of 1

Score uploaded as Field's Nocturne in G isn't!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:25 pm
by cjsmith53
The page:

http://imslp.org/wiki/Nocturne_in_G_maj ... eld,_John)

The only score linked to this page is a 2/4 Rondo, Allegro tempo, in E major, subtitled “Midi” by the French publisher, and said to be by Field.

Perhaps this is the Rondo in E, H. 54, or some other piece altogether.

But it isn't the Nocturne in G, which is a Lento piece in 6/8.

CS

Re: Score uploaded as Field's Nocturne in G isn't!

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:40 am
by steltz
You are absolutely right. It's H.13. In addition, it is a re-working of another piece, or at least a movement of another piece. There must have been many, because the H numbers go through from 13A (Divertissement for 2 violins, viola, double bass), to 13 R,(Le Midi, precedé d'un pastorale (H.14); this is a combination of two different things).

The problem now is what to do with it. We have a page for Le Midi, the version preceded by a pastorale, but oddly, we only have a piano arrangement of it. While the rondo part should be the same, H.13K won't have the pastorale attached, so our mis-labelled work probably shouldn't go on that page.

Without knowing how many movements the Divertissement H.13A had -- if it's only one, then the piano movement is a straight arrangement -- the H.13K should probably go on its own page, so the page you are talking about can just be renamed. Next -- there are several subtitles for this, so starting with Rondo in E, H.13K, the issue is whether to add one of them. The subtitle in the Marmontel edition is "Midi", Grove gives "Twelve O'Clock", and it was also known as "Rondo Favori". Without the original publication its hard to tell. The Liszt Edition is is "Nocturne Caracteristique "Midi" en forme de Nocturne", but that seems very fussy. Grove's entry says it was published in London 1832, so their "Rondo Twelve O'Clock" would be the original title?

That leaves us with "Rondo Twelve O'Clock, H.13K"?

By the way, Grove doesn't list it as a Nocturne, and technically speaking, there were only 16 Nocturnes anyway. The other two in the 18 "Nocturne" set were related but they weren't really nocturnes.