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Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:39 pm
by JaumeDEscriu

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:05 pm
by cypressdome
A few users have been uploading scores from the National Library of Spain as can be seen from the over 2,400 work pages with scores from BDH documented here. Perhaps one factor limiting more users from uploading their scores is that BDH's bogus copyright notice that appears on every page of each score must be removed prior to uploading it to IMSLP as we are not going to give any legitimacy to their claims of copyright ownership on material that is obviously in the public domain.

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:56 am
by coulonnus
I can do one or two, but not this entire collection! :-)

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:26 am
by JaumeDEscriu
Thanks to let me know about the situation.
I had been looking for some special arrangements of catalan folk songs (outstanding composers) and I've found it there. Then I've realized the interest of this collection for the IMSLP users.
Thanks again!

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:44 pm
by coulonnus
JaumeDEscriu wrote:I had been looking for some special arrangements of catalan folk songs (outstanding composers) and I've found it there.
Then please provide the composers and works you've found! With which search criteria did you obtain your page of results: http://bdh.bne.es/bnesearch/Search.do?t ... ageView=en ?

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:41 pm
by JaumeDEscriu
I had to choose only three popular catalan folk songs for an International Consensus on Singing Pedagogy (I had already choosed other two that are not in public domain).
It was my idea to look for outstanding composers that have done the arrangements as a way to spread the knowledge of catalan history of music.

I searched it there in two ways
1- Canciones+populares+Cataluña
2- Canciones+populares+españolas+Cataluña

Individual pages in PDFs are pasword protected, but in the whole PDFs it can be exported as individual pages without protection.

My choice were this songs :

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Song : Muntanyes regalades
Arranger : Josep Sancho i Marraco (1879-1960)

Score :
http://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000067493

(b La Garriga, 27 Feb 1879; d there, 17 Sept 1960). Catalan (spanish) composer and church musician. He was a boy chorister at Barcelona Cathedral, where he was appointed choirmaster in 1923. One of the greatest 20th-century composers of liturgical music in Spain, he wrote craftsmanlike masses and motets.

Wikipedia in spanish :
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josep_Sancho

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Song : La pastoreta
Arranger : Càndid Candi i Casanovas (1844-1911)

Score : In Volume 1 (got an award in the “Weltausstellung 1873 Wien”)
http://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000134578

Càndid Candi was a key person in the renovation of the sacred music in Catalonia during the last three decades of the XIX century. Candi was taught composing by Bonaventura Frigola and Bernat Calbó. Through the major part of his life he was Kapellmeister in various churches of Barcelona: “Església de Sant Just Pastor” (1864), “Convent de Santa Clara” (1872) y “Església parroquial de Sant Jaume” (1887). In 1879 he was elected as a member of the “Academia Filosófico Científica” where he was responsible for the musical section. He also became the honorary member of the “Asociación Musical Barcelonesa” and of the “Orfeón de Bilbao”. His musical works mainly show the evident sacred character (motets, masses, salves…) although he also composed pieces for piano and sardanas, and composed music to his friend’s, Jacint Verdaguer, numerous poems. Apart from his work as composer he also became famous for being the predecessor in searching for the Catalan folklore and its popularisation through gathering and instrumentation of many popular songs.

Wikipedia in spanish :
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A1ndido_Candi

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Song : El testament d’Amèlia
Arranger : Joan Gay i Planella (1867-1926)

Score :
http://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000127735

(b Barcelona, 1867, d Buenos Aires, 1926) was a composer, contributor to the Orfeó Català. He developed his career in Catalonia, Cuba and Argentina, also published in France with a volume of original folk songs in Catalan and translated into French
He founded and have responsibilities in various organizations, such as the Catalan Institute of Music, 1897. Directed the Orfeó Catalunya Nova, the Orfeó Català in La Havana, and the Academy of Fine Arts in Corrientes, Argentina.
His wife, Maria Gay was an opera singer who developed his career in opera theaters around the world.
He composed a large number of songs and operettas.


Wikipedia in spanish :
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Gay

Better bio in catalan :
http://www.assmmd.org/biografies/jgayplanella.htm

english Wikipedia about his wife http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Gay

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:54 am
by coulonnus
JaumeDEscriu wrote: Song : El testament d’Amèlia Arranger : Joan Gay i Planella (1867-1926)
Score : http://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000127735
I'll work on that one and upload it as soon as I'm finished with another big one from BNF. :-)

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:21 am
by coulonnus
Here is your 3rd request:http://imslp.org/wiki/Can%C3%A7ons_popu ... Gay,_Joan)
JaumeDEscriu wrote: Individual pages in PDFs are pasword protected, but in the whole PDFs it can be exported as individual pages without protection.
I didn't notice any password protection when you click on an individual page of the left column. The pdf shows up in the right column and you can save it. Which browser do you have?

You can also use PDFtk https://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-the-pdf-toolkit/ to extract a single page or piece from a big PDF.

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:56 pm
by JaumeDEscriu
Merci bien!
Je vous en remercie parce que vous avez déjà fait un petit pas de plus dans la popularisation d'un autre nom dans la musique catalane, et aussi vous avez ajouté ici un petit recueil de nos chansons populaires.

Je sauve les pdfs avec Chrome en Windows XP mais je les manipule a la maison avec Adobe Professional en Mac.

Cette fois, je vous écris en français parce que tous les gens de mon âge en Catalogne au moins nous avons étudié la langue française a l'école. J'espère que personne aura des problèmes à le faire traduire avec Google.

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:48 am
by frodo
I tried to download one and seems you don't need password. I tried it in chrome browser.

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:53 am
by coulonnus
JaumeDEscriu wrote:Je sauve les pdfs avec Chrome en Windows XP mais je les manipule a la maison avec Adobe Professional en Mac.
But now, are you able to save single pdf pages?

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:31 pm
by JaumeDEscriu
I've always been able to save pages as pdf.

But on 5/8/2014 the pdfs downloaded from the single page that is shown at the right side were pasword protected (credited as iText 2.1.7 by 1T3X).
Now it aren't protected that way anymore.

The pdfs for the whole document were not pasword protected at that time, nor now.

But anyway still some kind of trouble because still now I can't manipulate none of the pdfs with Adobe Acrobat Professional.
The way I have done it is rasterize the non protected pdfs in photoshop (to take out the BNE credits and clean them carefully).

Re: Can anyone work uploading this material?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:13 am
by icactus
Don't waste your time on Photoshop! If you just need to remove the copyright tag from the bottom of every image it is much easier to use the program Briss from http://briss.sourceforge.net/. With this program you load the entire pdf at once and then crop off the bottom from the entire thing. Will save you a lot of time.