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Brahms Hungarian Dances

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:56 am
by vinteuil
This page is already very cluttered - the original version, and then the orchestration make it hard to navigate. To make things worse, orchestral parts are coming for all of these. How should the page best be split?

Re: Brahms Hungarian Dances

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:23 am
by Carolus
My initial thought is to create a separate page called 21 Hungarian Dances - Orchestra, WoO 1 (or something similar). This way all 21 dances will be available in their orchestral settings, only three of which were made by the composer. I am aware that Brahms approved the orchestrations made by Dvorak (who he actually recommended to Simrock for the task) but am not sure about the provenance of some of the others (Parlow, Juon and Hallen) - though they are considered the standard ones performed and recorded by most orchestras. (There are others of more recent vintage which are still under copyright which have been recorded.) By confining this page to orchestral settings only, the other numerous arrangements can remain on the original page. I'm afraid that if we made all the arrangements appear on a separate page, we'd be facing the identical problem of a massive, hard-to-navigate workpage.

Other ideas, thoughts and suggestions are, as always, most welcome.

Re: Brahms Hungarian Dances

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:45 am
by Davydov
As far as the page titles go, I'd recommend:

* 21 Hungarian Dances (piamo), WoO 1 (Brahms, Johannes)
* 21 Hungarian Dances (orchestra), WoO 1 (Brahms, Johannes)

... with the second page including Brahms's own orchestration of 1, 3 and 10 as the main entry, and the "Arrangements and Transcriptions" section of the same page including the orchestral/wind band arrangements by Dvorak and others. (Strictly speaking these were orchestrations of the piano version, and an argument can be made for them remaining on that page, although that wouldn't solve our problem of the cluttered page.) The other piano/chamber arrangements can be left with the piano version.